Καθόσον έχω έρθει (και τόσοι χρόνοι όσοι και έχω το κυβικό μέτρο) εκεί θα είμαι πάντα εκείνο το ένα κορίτσι αυτό
ακόμα fucks εγώ επάνω. Φυσικά υπάρχουν πάντα μερικά κορίτσια που fuck εμείς επάνω (αλλά όλα τα άλλα κορίτσια εγώ επάνω προτού να μάθω τους τρόπους….) Αυτό το κορίτσι ήξερα όλα… Κτυπούσα τους νεοσσούς που αφέθηκαν και σωστούς… Υπολόγιζα τις κινήσεις… … Και κούρδισα στη «ζώνη φίλων» που διάρκεσε 5 έτη fuck τελικά αυτή!!!!!!!!!!
Και σωστός μετά από μια εβδομάδα του φυσώντας φύλου μυαλού επιστρέψαμε στην ύπαρξη φίλοι. What fucks me up is that I thought I was doing everything right. But in reality… I was trying to hard to avoid friend zone that I wound up in it.
My problem was that I didn’t want to be one of those lame, listen to her shitty drama, waiting around with my thumb up my ass guys… so I was the complete oppossite. I was treating her like one of the guys… fucking her coworkers, acting completely uninterested in her sexually and wound up sending the wrong message. Ultimately my biggest mistake was that early on in the friendship there were opportunities to act on, and I was too proud to make the move.. Too concerned about how my ego would feel if she denied me.
It was until a drunken week on another planet that we threw our formalities aside and told each other how we felt… blah blah blah…
But by then it was too late. Don’t get me wrong. I’m over it. Its actually nice having a female friend. But the sex was SPECTACULAR and because it was so forbidden for so long.. getting a tiny taste made me crave more and more.
The moral of the story is don’t make the same mistake thats I made. I’m going to pass along some information that I apparently didn’t listen too. The short list of things to do to avoid “becoming friends” is sent to us courtesy of Stephen Nash, author of the amazing ebook “How to Get a Girlfriend.”
How to to Avoid the Friend Zone by Stephen Nash
1) Be physical. No, I don’t mean wrestle with her, but I do mean for you to TOUCH her. Perhaps you just met her, and have been talking for 5-10 minutes - touch her lightly on the hand or the shoulder. Or, you are out on your first date, offer your arm to her as you cross the street or subtly place your hand on her lower back. These are masculine moves, which signal to her that this is a romantic interaction, not a “friendly” one.
2) Be bold. Ultimately guys, she is looking to you to be both sensitive to her and to the moment. If the window opens for a kiss, be bold, and go for it. If you allow too many of these to pass, the energy changes, and you classify YOURSELF as a “friend”. Even if she rejects your advance, it is far better to go for it that not. You get nowhere fast by hoping a kiss magically happens. If she does reject you, this doesn’t mean you cannot try again later. Also, she may be saving you a lot of time by indicating that she simply is not interested in you. Better to find out now…
3) Challenge her. Too often we are so eager to please the woman that we fail to be ourselves. If we are really focused and moving our lives forward, our attractiveness to women increases tremendously. In my ebook, “How To Get A Girlfriend“, I discuss this in length. A woman, intuitively, biologically, is seeking a man who will be firm and steadfast in his resolve, and his purpose. The way we demonstrate this is in not accepting her at her fullest. So, if you feel that she is not really living up to her potential, TELL HER. If she is allowing herself to slip into mediocrity, TELL HER. Do it tenderly, and with love, but be sure to do it. Don’t accept less than her best.
There you go guys. If you can do these three things with consistency, you will never find yourself hearing those awful words again…”Let’s Just Be Friends”. There will be times when you do not get the girl, but you will always be firm in your purpose maintaining your integrity. And, you will be better prepared for the NEXT girl, just around the corner.
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January 6, 2008
The dreaded friend zone. I cannot count the many times I’ve been put there in my life. This article had some good tips to avoid it. Thank you Stephen Nash!
-Seraf
January 6, 2008
O yea, a good way to make sure you stay out of the friend zone.
DON’T TAKE HER SHIT
And dish out negs to her in order to convey that you are a challenge.
However, if you lose a neg battle with her, just say “respect.”
At least you put up a fight.
-Seraf
January 20, 2008
i agree seraf, only thing i would say differently is the “losing” part. when you do it right you should never lose a neg battle. what i have learned is to neg her with good timing, she may do the same but if you do find yourself losing, just stop and say nothing. dont make a big deal of it if you get offended, just make sure she knows that you were hurt or offended. this creates that awkward silence(normally this is avoided but used the right way it works to your benefit, she will soon come to realize that its a good idea to not neg you because this uncomfortable silence is VERY awkward. i find this works best if you have already demonstrated a high value and she is sending you ioi’s. she wont wanna lose you just yet so she play it cool.
February 6, 2008
I have been having Neg battles with a girl and winning. I am trying everything to avoid the friendzone. As of right now, I have just moved to another country and this girl is really the only one I know so far. We have chilled twice and had good conversations, i have noticed IOI and i have been building comfort and KINO. But she comes out of left field and tells me that she has a date…What the F*ck? I’m at a loss as to how to react to this!
February 6, 2008
Well first, i would say, let her win sometimes, because if you dhv too much and always beat her, she’s eventually gonna think you are too good and give up on you, so let her win sometimes, and possibly try some freezouts to keep the tension there(but dont look like your upset, just ignore it and pretend you didnt hear. she’ll feel like some does when they tell a joke thats not funny. and she’ll learn not to bag on you.) but before u do that you have to have attraction built, because a girl who could care less wont be affected by it. alot of guy try to build comfort before attraction, and thats how you fall into the friend zone. you may say “ive noticed ioi’s” but odds are u didnt make a move quick enough, or u missed out on the opportunities. and about that kino, you gotta make sure u stay away from the type of kino a friend would give one another. think back to how u were with girls you were dating and girls you were friends with. i bet yuor kino was different with them in one aspect or another. a pat on the back, hug, or high five isnt threatening to a friend. because in her mind shes thinking that is not going any further. now a kiss, intimate hug, and hand holding is the type of kino applied to someone you like. the difference is, in her mind she’s thinking, “this could lead to something”. now nothings wrong with escalating and going through friend kino first, but while u got the momentum u gotta get out of that friend zone your temporarily in. i also recommend using the hoop theory, your hoops have to start small and gradually get bigger as your start building compliance. now u might think this is all stuff you know already, but if she waits till the the comfort phase to tell you she had a bf, odds are u were doing something right, and then screwed up later in between a1-a3. because otherwise she would have told you before you went out wherever. mystery says a women will cheat on her boyfriend if you do things the right way, and i can vouch for that >;)
February 6, 2008
o yeah and if you want my opinion on what to do, you gotta get another girl and make sure shes sees you two having a good time. making her jealous is probably one of the best ways to get out of the friendzone. keep preselection, in mind….because you know how people say you never know wut you have until its gone? yeah….women want what they cant have. and for future reference, if you can make a girl jealous after you know shes attracted, its even more powerful. and thats because jealousy is the fear of loss or not possessing . and she wont wanna lose you that easy after she feels like shes invested her time into you! i hope ive answered your question
February 6, 2008
Thanks for the tips! I’ll see what’s good tonight…
February 8, 2008
Okay…I believe I am officially trapped in the zone. She has had the date and I believe she is into this other guy. My instinct is let her know how I feel but I am going to take the advice given and find more girls. Chalk this up to experience, I guess. Man, this kinda sucks. Its hard to admit being an AFC!
March 6, 2008
thanks man even though i knew this uncounsesly it is still great to have someone actually prove on how not to be in the friend zone. I will use some advice here thanks.
March 6, 2008
in your guy’s experience is the friend zone permanent? because its been a wild ride with this girl and idk if she wants to stay friends or if shes waiting for me to make a move
March 7, 2008
March 9, 2008
any suggestions on how to reframe it bobby? cause if it works and i get out ill have a wild story to tell about