Υπεάρξε λίγη συζήτηση στο α πρόσφατη θέση όπου δήλωσα ότι το καλύτερό του για να μάθω το ένα σύστημα ή ύφος της επανάλειψης παρά που παίρνει το καλύτερο καθένα και που αναμιγνύει τους όλοι από κοινού. Πιστεύω stongly ότι πρέπει να βρείτε ποιο ύφος της επανάλειψης που λειτουργεί για σας και επενδύει το χρόνο και την ενέργεια στην εκμάθηση του. έως ότου το τελειοποιείτε. Μόλις τρέξετε το στερεό παιχνίδι, και έχοντας το πιο σημαντικό ένα ισχυρό ίδρυμα του εσωτερικού παιχνιδιού… Κατόπιν. Μπορείτε να κάνετε οποιο δήποτε το fuck εσείς θέλει!!
Lately I’ve been getting a bunch of comments and questions asking me what style of game do I run. And answering that question isn’t really easy. The only thing I can describe it as is “natural game”. In fact, its been so long since I’ve consciously been aware of what I’m doing during a flirtation or pickup that I’ve almost started to believe I was a natural. But, of course that is far from the case.
I think that’s the evolution of a pickup artist. I started as an average frustrated chump. I had my awakening period, which also involved some experimenting with Speed Seduction in college(worth a whole post in itself.) My awakening period lead to a long term relationship. And then the evolution began!
It started with three books: Double Your Dating, The Art of Approaching, and Venusian Arts Handbook. By the time I picked up these books I already knew enough to know “I didn’t know shit.”
The first thing I studied was Double Your Dating. Cocky/funny was my shit. It came natural to me so it was great to have David help unleash the beast that was inside of me lol. And I was a master at cocky and funny. I was getting laid left and right within my social circle. I was the fucking star of my social circle. But there was something missing.
What I realized was that cocky/funny worked like a charm for me in situations where I had some built in rapport with a girl.. but I would often fall flat on my face when I was cold approaching a girl in a bar. The problem was that without built in rapport of a social circle my cocky funny was going over their heads. For me, DeAngelo had done enough to teach me how to get laid easily once I got the date, but I was still having trouble opening new girls.
So I bought Joseph Mathew’s Art of Approaching. The book was quite long and pretty different than Double Your Dating. But it was exactly what I needed to keep the evolution going. It was filled with openers, in depth examination of body language, guidelines for effective flirting, and was the first book that introduced me to the importance of storytelling. This book gave me concrete real life word for word examples. Now, did I use those examples word for word. No. But my reading Mathews openers I was able to see why my cocky/funny wasn’t working on the approach. And now with Mathews and DeAngelo’s help I was on fire.
I’m not going to lie and say that Mathews completely cured every bit of approach anxiety I had ( I don’t think I’ll ever be 100% free of approach anxiety) but I was 100% more confident going into a set than I had been before Art of Approaching. And I was seeing the results which led to even more confidence.
By this time cocky/funny was no longer something that I consciously worked at. I didn’t stand in a bar thinking of cocky things to say or how can I show a girl I’m alpha. These traits were now just part of my personality. And once the transformation takes place mentally, then you BECOME this person. Which means, I no longer viewed myself as someone practicing to get laid. I viewed myself as a GUY WHO GETS LAID.
The Venusian Arts Handbook was bought out of greed. I had visions being the greatest pickup artist in the world. The Handbook, which is available now as Magic Bullets, was a goldmine of knowledge. It broke the whole thing down so precisely that I would actually feel like I was playing chess when I went to a bar. Like Style said “Rinse Wash Repeat” is what it became for awhile.
What Venusian did though was bring back that inner sense of doubt. Because Mystery laid it out so perfectly I no longer was trusting myself the way I had previously. My game went from laid back party guy to structured PUA.
I was a “born again natural” who was making things more complicated then they needed to be by going after things I didn’t really want. I remember one night I was walking through a club with a wing I didn’t really enjoy hanging out with (but seemed to be with him all the time simply because he was a good wing) and we’re entering a set of girls I had no desire to talk to.. (but they were the hottest in the club so we felt we had to) and it was at that moment I realized that I didn’t want to be a pickup artist. I wanted to be able to meet, date, and sleep with the girls I was attracted to. And I had already achieved that. It was a liberating feeling.
In a post called “Pickup Artist vs. Players” I talked about why I consider myself a player and not a pick-up artist. Don’t get me wrong; It was my desire to be a pick-up artist that made me the player I am today.
So, coming back to the original topic of; what my game has evolved into?
My game revolves around being fearless in all areas of life. It is about having an “inner knowing” that things will work out for me. It is about a never ending curiosity towards all people. It is creating the life I dream about and finding the right people to bring along on the journey. It is openly exploring my passions. Its loving the feel of a naked woman lying next to me, and knowing I can have that feeling over and over again. Its about fucking up and forgiving myself for it. Its about going balls to the wall when the situations calls for it. And staying cool, calm, and in control when it doesn’t. Its KNOWING that when one beautiful girl walks out of my life, another is waiting to walk in. Its trusting my sense of humor. Its the desire to see people smile. Its giving for the sake of giving. And taking what I have coming to me.
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February 8, 2008
awesome post man. i can see myself being happy someday in the same boat that you are. i really feel better about myself when i pick up a girl the natural way (or drunk) instead of conciously having to run routines i have done several times already.
February 8, 2008
I compared venusian arts to my friends method tonight. He was going on about his drunk stories where he has ran trains on girls and so forth and their great stories dont get me wrong but they seem so violating. I think Pickup arts are more of a way to get a girl in bed without having to feel bad or worry that the next day could follow with rape charges or a ruined reputation for one party or the other.
summarized: pickup arts are a more honest way to win a girl over and requires more challenge.
February 8, 2008
All AFC’s go through that awakening period when they finally realize they are an AFC. I was the same way.
I will never forget my awakening period. I have been into improving my game ever since.
Right now, my current goal is to change lives. I want to be an instructor in these seductive arts. But in order to be an instructor, I need to be good enough myself first.
But hey, these goals could change. The future is not set in stone.
-Seraf
February 8, 2008
This is the best post I have read from you.
February 8, 2008
I agree, hell I have found answers in Pickup arts to alot of things not just relationships but ways of dealing with stress and better interacting with people its been amazing
February 8, 2008
Same here. People don’t realize Pick Up goes beyond getting chicks. It’s about building a better life.
-Seraf
February 8, 2008
Totally agree. I was getting my haircut last night and I heard two women talking about their kid and how he wasnt dressed to the “norm” ( aka Abercrombie wearing, gelled spiked hair,etc). But then they talked about memorable people in their lives and how the lady met a sales person who was dressed different but stuck in her mind. He backed up his appearance with a nice, confident, funny personality and even though the sales transaction was over, this person stayed in her head. This totally proved to me that peacocking and congruency with your appearance transcends picking up girls and into real life.
February 8, 2008
I went to the mall today in simple peacocking gear, two rings, a watch, a braclett, and my goggles (actually bought these before I knew about mystery) and people kept making eye contact and some people ommented, it was fun!
February 9, 2008
Great post!
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February 9, 2008
Thanks for sharing your pick up evolution Bobby, very insightful.
I also agree with the majority of you, pick up isn’t just about scroing chicks, its about building a lifestyle. Its a shame that a majority of people sees it this way.
Pzz
February 9, 2008
+1 to the lifestyle thing.
Moreover, I think that the Game isn’t really about getting you laid at all, it’s about creating a state of life (or the illusion at first) that leads girls to your arms. I have a PUA friend who is waiting for marriage, the only stuff he doesn’t do is the sex. Its about fun, life, and inner game.
February 10, 2008
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February 10, 2008
Out of the three books you mentioned I think that the Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery was the most helpful for me. I adopt material from all over the community but I always went back to his basic framework to keep things easy and simple. I don’t see an issue with taking things from different teachers and systems as long as you recognize there is a potential for conflict and you build for yourself a coherent system to use. In the end, the system you develop should become uniquely yours.
February 10, 2008
I tried the Venusian arts out for a while after I read The Game. It totally changed my frame of mind and set me on a nice track forward. At this point, I didn’t really know anything about any of this and had relied on my looks and my sense of humor. That worked well enough,but I was really beta in a lot of ways and always ended up messing it up in the long run with hot chicks. Anyway, MM only helped me so much until I realized it just wasn’t for me. What I needed more than anything was some strong inner game and so then I got in to other peoples stuff that focused more on that. Now it’s a pretty simple formula and I’m still learning a lot of every day,but I would also say that my style of game is natural. Mostly a mix of Juggler and Gamblers styles.
February 14, 2008
yeah i have to start reading does books
and than make my own article and post it lol
February 19, 2008
The thing about being a natural though is that is already combines little aspects from all the schools of PUA. I think each school is really just a branch or exaggeration of something a natural already does.
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