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I'm Bobby Rio, one of the founders of TSB. I tend to write about what is on my mind so you'll find a mix of self development, social dynamics and dating articles/experiences. I am fascinated with improving our general well-being. It can be done. It must be done. Find me on Facebook, lets talk more.
Brad Howard,co-author of The Adonis Effect sent me this video that I thought I would pass along to you guys. I know when you just get into a workout routine, a trip to GNC can be quite intimidating… and quite frankly the sales clerks very rarely know anything useful.
Protein powder is pretty much a staple of any bodybuilders diet. My advice to watch this video and also use the recommedations of The 2008 Supplement Awards… and you’ll probably avoid getting scammed or buying crap.
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November 25, 2008
What video?
November 25, 2008
Bobby’s a technologically inept
video’s up now
November 26, 2008
All these workouts posts are a bit of an embarassment. If you feel comfortable posting collections of regurgitated folklore, product-pimping, and misinformation on this topic then what does that say about the rest of the TSB content? Despite what some of your instructors might think, they are not experts on fitness, training, nutrition, or bodybuilding, and should stop pretending they are.
Rebutting each specific item in detail just isn’t worth the trouble in this forum. Suffice it to say that on the whole the average reader will have *less* understanding of how to get into shape after reading the material here, not more.
Encouraging readers to get into shape is great and almost certainly helps. Spouting ignorant nonsense when there are so many other sites with decent information is doing readers a disservice.
November 26, 2008
Rob
I appreciate the feedback. And I understand you may disagree with some of the advice myself or our other authors might publish on the site.
But the fact is, when it comes to fitness, weight training, supplements… there are always going to be a hundred different opinions.
Everyday new studies come out, new books written, new workout routines created… just go to Barns N Noble and you’ll get a clear indication of how many different opinions there are on the subject.
So why I definantly agree that there will sometimes be advice of ours that some people might find flawed… I think its just as dangerous for you to toot your opinion like you’re the expert. Cuz the fact is… no one is an expert. And if they want to call themselves experts, they’ll find themselves disagreeing with a hundred other so called experts pretty quickly.
But, if you feel you have great advice to pass along, write a post, if you’re interested I’ll send you our post guidelines and payment amounts.
November 27, 2008
Not sure where the “misinformation” is in this video… considering John is a supplement development consultant as well as used to TEACH at the University Of Florida…
Of course, if you’d like to base your “get in shape” strategy around the workout advice that stems from steroid induced bodybuilders… be my guest.
Just keep in mind that studies show that a man that takes test injections and SITS ON HIS ASS will have BETTER muscle gains than the same guy that lifts and eats “like he’s supposed” to… with no juice.
Recent Words from Brad..Don’t Do This - EVER!
November 27, 2008
It’s not a matter of one story differing from another; it’s a matter of bogging readers down in details for which there is no real evidence or consensus and ignoring the lessons that real experts have established. And there *are* experts in this field: sports science is a very mature discipline, although the popular writing on the subject (by “personal trainers” and “nutritionists”) is to the science as John Gray’s “Men are from Mars” books are to real psychology and sociology.
To draw another analogy, if people hadn’t heard of evolution then you might want to explain it to them. But you wouldn’t do this by drilling down into the debate between punctuated equilibrium and phyletic gradualism—experts are still working out these details and it’s not directly relevant to the big picture, anyway. And you *certainly* wouldn’t pick one side of the debate and present that side as “correct”.
Bringing this back to the original post: does the difference between a powder which is 70% protein and one which is 90% protein matter to an elite strength/physique athlete who is pushing the boundaries of human potential and micromanaging every gram of food intake? Maybe. Is the difference even vaguely comparable to ensuring relatively balanced amino acid blends? To maintaining a steady food intake in support of muscle growth? To working with the right intensity and managing rest as closely as the workouts themselves? To ensuring proper technique during workouts in order to prevent injuries? To having just a couple of beers a week after work? Not a chance.
To throw some real high-brow commentary at you, these posts violate Grice’s “Maxim of Relevance”: readers expect that what you are writing about is more important than what you’re not writing about. On this topic, at least, that’s not the case.
November 27, 2008
Ah… but in the days of the “blog”… this is NOT a self contained environment and posts such as this are indexed in the search engines and PULL new readers into the fray.
These may be the same guys that are ONLY working out to try to get women and have been YEARNING for this type of information (dating/seduction)…
… and although me and the guys don’t agree with everything that’s fitness related up here… we also realize that the content serves a different purpose as well…
… as an entry way for more readers to join the TSB fun.
Recent Words from Brad..Don’t Do This - EVER!
November 27, 2008
A guy who made a product with a very high percentage of protein claims that the key thing to look at when reading the packaging for a supplement is what percentage of protein it contains. And despite the mountain of evidence showing that very large doses of protein lead to deamination and gluconeogenesis (i.e. if you eat a lot of protein all at once your body breaks down the amino acids to turn it into sugar), he suggests that you can always “pound the protein” and your body will be able to absorb it.
Suffice it to say that advice on supplements from a guy with a supplement to sell should be taken with a very large grain of salt.
November 27, 2008
Rob,
May I ask what your educational background and industry experience is with respect to sports nutrition and the fitness industry as a whole? (to be fair I don’t like either of those terms: “sports nutrition’ or “fitness industry” but they’re the ones that make the most sense here.)
John
November 27, 2008
Watch it again… he doesn’t “suggest” you do it… he says you COULD. But then he asks the question do you NEED that much protein.
Recent Words from Brad..Don’t Do This - EVER!
November 27, 2008
He directly refutes the notion that your body can’t absorb single large doses of protein all at once, and goes on to explicitly condone getting all your protein in one or two large doses a day, because “from a physiological standpoint…your body can absorb a lot of protein”.
Unequivocal public statements on topics which are still contested and of little relevance are merely confusing; outright contradictions of established scientific consensus (and training “best practice”) without compelling evidence are irresponsible.
November 28, 2008
I only have one thing to say…when I used protein powder, it gave me a bit of a gut, so I stopped. I’m not saying it happens to everyone…I’m just saying..:-)
November 28, 2008
Wow, everyone is being upright and nice to this douche Rob. Well, going have to switch that up and say “Go F#ck yourself, Rob”. Nothing wrong with this or any other article about fitness on TSB.
-random_dude
November 28, 2008
I agree. What a douche.
Quit griping about the video and go find you a girl or something.