Roosh Says: It Shouldn’t Be Like Climbing The Great Wall Of China

Here’s a question from a traveling PUA…

Looking for some advice here, brother. So I’m in China, and of course there is a cute girl on the trip with me who I’m plotting on. By way of background, she’s a Midwestern (Chicago) girl who seems fairly straitlaced but is very down to earth, not a princess at all (no complaining about the heat, handles her end on excursions, etc.), and not attached to anyone special back home, at least not claiming a boyfriend.

She hangs out with this one little group of girls all the time, so of course if i want to run game i have to be subtle about it and include them in activities as well. We have gone out to breakfast once just the two of us, but of course it’s all very friendly. On my end, I’ve been careful to not overexpose myself by not always being around them and generally playing the independent guy role by only hanging with them if they were doing something of interest to me, and otherwise going off alone.

To be honest, she’s not giving me a whole lot of interest signals. We had a good convo at breakfast and she laughs at my jokes and the usual crap, but there’s not a whole lot of buying signals coming my way. She does seem a little less comfortable around me than the other guys on the trip and seems to avoid a whole lot of direct eye contact. This could either mean that she’s digging me and just shy or that she thinks I am sketchy. If it were the latter, though, I feel like she’d just avoid me. I’m not quite sure how to flush the thing out or negotiate a conversion.

And yes, I am in fucking China, climbing the Great Wall and dining in the land of emperors, and this is what is occupying my thoughts.

Answer:

You are never going to be 100% sure until you try to put your tongue in her mouth. The exception is if you are on an “official” date where it’s clear she’s interested in you.

Two key points:

1. Isolation. I’m sure you already know about this. Even if she does like you, she will be more hesitant to do anything if a group of her friends are watching.

2. Nighttime. It’s 10 times easier to get things going at a bar at night than during brunch. While alcohol will not increase her attraction for you, it will make her more comfortable by lowering her guard.

If I was out there in China, i’d tell her something like, “Hey so-and-so told me about this interesting bar a few blocks away. How about we grab a drink there later?”

If she is attracted to you then you are giving her an easy opportunity to say yes to. Then you can have her alone like on a normal date, talk, touch, and then make out with her by the end. But if she gives you some excuse and doesn’t counter offer, she’s probably not down and it’s time to move on. And hey as a white man in China I doubt you’ll have much trouble with the natives.

Roosh is the author of Bang, a 60,000 word guide to getting laid that we review here. He recently contributed his First Date Survival Guide as part of the 31 Days To Better Game series.

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About Roosh "Roosh is a Washington DC native and worked as a scientist until he pulled out of the rat race to pursue a slower lifestyle. A member of the old Mystery's Lounge, Roosh built up his game after college, cumulating with the release of his book Bang almost seven years later. Currently he is writing his second book about his six month trip to South America in late 2007."

Roosh Says: It Shouldn’t Be Like Climbing The Great Wall Of China

Here’s a question from a traveling PUA…

Looking for some advice here, brother. So I’m in China, and of course there is a cute girl on the trip with me who I’m plotting on. By way of background, she’s a Midwestern (Chicago) girl who seems fairly straitlaced but is very down to earth, not a princess at all (no complaining about the heat, handles her end on excursions, etc.), and not attached to anyone special back home, at least not claiming a boyfriend.

She hangs out with this one little group of girls all the time, so of course if i want to run game i have to be subtle about it and include them in activities as well. We have gone out to breakfast once just the two of us, but of course it’s all very friendly. On my end, I’ve been careful to not overexpose myself by not always being around them and generally playing the independent guy role by only hanging with them if they were doing something of interest to me, and otherwise going off alone.

To be honest, she’s not giving me a whole lot of interest signals. We had a good convo at breakfast and she laughs at my jokes and the usual crap, but there’s not a whole lot of buying signals coming my way. She does seem a little less comfortable around me than the other guys on the trip and seems to avoid a whole lot of direct eye contact. This could either mean that she’s digging me and just shy or that she thinks I am sketchy. If it were the latter, though, I feel like she’d just avoid me. I’m not quite sure how to flush the thing out or negotiate a conversion.

And yes, I am in fucking China, climbing the Great Wall and dining in the land of emperors, and this is what is occupying my thoughts.

Answer:

You are never going to be 100% sure until you try to put your tongue in her mouth. The exception is if you are on an “official” date where it’s clear she’s interested in you.

Two key points:

1. Isolation. I’m sure you already know about this. Even if she does like you, she will be more hesitant to do anything if a group of her friends are watching.

2. Nighttime. It’s 10 times easier to get things going at a bar at night than during brunch. While alcohol will not increase her attraction for you, it will make her more comfortable by lowering her guard.

If I was out there in China, i’d tell her something like, “Hey so-and-so told me about this interesting bar a few blocks away. How about we grab a drink there later?”

If she is attracted to you then you are giving her an easy opportunity to say yes to. Then you can have her alone like on a normal date, talk, touch, and then make out with her by the end. But if she gives you some excuse and doesn’t counter offer, she’s probably not down and it’s time to move on. And hey as a white man in China I doubt you’ll have much trouble with the natives.

Roosh is the author of Bang, a 60,000 word guide to getting laid that we review here. He recently contributed his First Date Survival Guide as part of the 31 Days To Better Game series.

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