Dating Tips for Men

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:07:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Jamen
Subject: Re: Digest Number 518

You know, I was in a bar a couple of weeks ago and a little Indian guy (as in,
from India), started working sets in front of me. He was new and having fun.
That was fine. But after he didn’t get anywhere with them, he came into my set
(I was working two HB8+’s, had them leaning into me at the bar – it was
perfect), and started AMOG’ing me in the way you’re describing. Basically, he
said something like, “Oh, I have no choice against this guy (meaning me),
because he must be an ass model.” and then he asked me if I still had a pair of
Jordache jeans in my closet.

I found this incredibly amusing, especially since his accent was so thick that
I had to ask him to repeat himself and the HB’s didn’t like him. So, I turned
it around and said he looked like a dancing monkey. I even got him to clap his
hands together and make a silly noise by making him think the girls would think
he was cute. I felt bad about tooling him, especially since he was obviously in
the community (I never found out from where), but he was trying to AMOG me
without provocation. If you’re on this list, hey man, I am flattered at your
identifying me as an AMOG. But before coming in, you should have asked me if I
had a tattoo on my wrist…


Message: 25
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:14:57 +1100
From: “Hart, Simon” Subject: What is Alpha?

I’d be interested to hear what you guys now think your definition of

I ask this because I’ve found many times in recent months that I have
success of taking the piss out of Alpha guys for being Alpha, and it
Women laugh, they think it’s hilarious.

I’ve actually created attraction in girls by saying “I am scrawny and
pathetic! I have no hope! Not like these big alpha guys over here!”
in direction of loud alpha wolfpack). And they totally love it to bits,
think its ace.

It’s as though they’ve just never thought about it that way before. My
victim can be the coolest buff surf dude in the place, and if I go
“look at
that big dork, he’s pretending to be James Bond!” then all of his
transforms instantly into the ridiculous. It’s like the spell and power
that image can snap if you can get them to see it from another angle.

So my point is that that ALPHA MODEL is not what it seems. Every guy is
gunning for that, it’s too goddamn typical and obvious.

I think virtually anyone can be made fun of. The only people who are
probably bullet proof are guys like Brad Pitt and George Clooney etc,
just ooze natural power and relaxed charisma, but I’ve never seen that
guys in the pub/club who is really bullet-proof in this sense, maybe
the odd
one or two. Mostly it is guys trying to loudly portray to the
that they are alpha.

It’s because ego IS ridiculous when on display – it is FALSE
fragile as hell, a mask – underneath it there is usually nothing. And
if you
are doing it you better have something behind it to back it up with,
being a Hollywood movie star with TALENT.

I guess the point of this post is I think the trap of self-development
this area can encourage you to go down this path, and it’s a false way
think. A LOT of David DeAngelo’s stuff I would say encourages you to go
this (what I would call) PRIMATIVE ALPHA MODEL. You know:

Stand straight, go to the gym, shoulders back, squint, feet shoulder
apart, look down your nose, chest out, be a MAAAN…

It doesn’t even work for him, if you watch his DVD’s



Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:05:35 +0100 (CET)
From: Nils Tonne
Subject: Body language

David wrote:

What David says here is exactly my problem. Thanks for putting that into
will be easier to remember when I am screwing everything up next time 😉

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