Waitering vs. Bartending Jobs


I am  going to take a quick break from the Brazil themed posts as i am planning a post on Good Game in Brazil for tomorrow.  Tonight I am going on my third date with the blonde i met the first night. I will give details of the encounter in tomorrows post.

Today I am going to answer a question i recieved from Seraf in my inbox regarding bartending jobs. Here is his question:

I had someone very recently suggest to me to become a bartender. He thinks I would make a great bartender. The thought never crossed my mind. Opportunity not only to spit game, but to observe game as well. Hell, I think I might even get to take a lovely lady back to my place one night.

I remember Bobby suggesting getting a serving job and right now that is what  I’m currently pursuing. But what are your thoughts on being a bartender? Do you think there is more opportunity in that job than being a server as far as gaming is concerned?

I remember the woman you had on one of your podcasts who was a bartender. Has she ever said anything about the job? Is it competitive or difficult to get into? If so, how would you suggest going about pursuing the job of bartender?

Thanks a lot,


I am going to make this quick, because quite frankly I am in Brazil and have more exciting options that sitting on a computer, but i thought this question was worth answering.

A waitering job in a chain place like Fridays, Applebees, Houlihans, or Chillis is a great gig.  These places always have a large staff of employees and a high turnover ratio so that there will always be new girls funneling in. You also get exposed to many different social scenes as all these girls have friends. If you have any game at all you will do very nicely assuming you choose a place with hot help.

But with a waitering job you are not likely to meet customers.  Its not a job that gives you a great opportunity to flirt with girls outside of your coworkers.

Bartending is a great gig with certain conditions.  Here in NJ it is extremely difficult to get a job at a good place without lots of experience or connections.  If you are lucky enough to land a job at a hot bar or club you will clean up with customers, and co workers. It may be the easiest ass you get.  But more than likely when beginning you will work the shitty shifts in a dive bar serving Manhattans to old people.

So my answer is if you have the connections to land a good bartending job take it.  You´ll rake in money and women. If you dont have connections or experience I suggest starting at a chain resturant. After awhile they will most likely offer to train you for the bar. Take the offer.  This experience will be priceless when attemting to land a job in a hot bar or club

Im out…. its back to the good life


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  1. Eddy

    November 13, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    Hey all, I have previously posted a few questions here regarding a girl Ive been trying to get with. You help has been invaluable – however having just finished reading mystery’s venusian arts book, Ive realised how much ive been doing wrong and how many opportunities Ive fucked up. Now the girl has gone and got laid with someother guy at the weekend! which really pisses me off. At this point I believe that I had established attraction tho Im not sure if its still there as strong. I am pretty sure I have established comfort and pair bonding to a certain extent but Im in danger of the friend zone I think. How can I apply the mystery method from here considering many of the stages no longer apply and the handbook was not designed for long drawn out pickups? This pickup has lasted almost 2 months so far! Need your help on this one guys – do I play the game as normal or what?

  2. Chase

    November 13, 2007 at 3:26 pm


    I didn’t study the Mystery Method…so I can’t really help you there. At my age (28) all I play with is daygame and instadating. Here’s the best advice I can give you.

    Unless you’re in highschool (and probably even then) there is no such thing as a 2 month set…especially if she fucked another guy last weekend. Trust me, you’re already in the friend zone with this girl. If that’s all you want…great. You can never have too many female friends.

    If you want a relationship with this woman, what you need to do (and I mean fucking IMMEDIATELY) is hit what is referred to as ‘the relationship reset button.’ Don’t call, don’t text and don’t email. From here on out if she gets in touch you can reset the relationship on your terms. Otherwise leave her be.

    Remember there are plenty of other women out there you can start a fresh relationship with without the early screwups. Make sure she knows you have other options and that if you choose to be with her there is a reason for it.

    Best of luck

  3. Seraf24

    November 13, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    I would leave her and find a new target. Not only do you show non-neediness (which could possibly have her running back to you), but it seems to me if she got laid over the weekend she might not be into you.

    That, or you could already be in the friend zone. Think about it, two months and you haven’t gotten in bed with her yet? Have you even hooked up?

    If you have, take out my last statements, as I haven’t read you’re previous posts.

    But hey, nothing wrong with finding new targets. I do it all the time every time I fuck up.


  4. Bobby_Rio

    November 13, 2007 at 10:17 pm


    I agree with everything that Seraf and Chase said. There is a certain point you have to cut your losses and move on. This doesn’t mean you want ever fuck her.. it just means let it be, concentrate on another girl, and don’t worry about her anymore. she may come to you… she may not.. but a true player is always playing.

  5. ScottUA

    November 14, 2007 at 11:28 am

    Hey Bobby-

    Good article…agree with the comment about waitering. It seems like most of the time you wouldn’t have a lot of time for gaming with customers and could lead to some problems.

    I’ve been a DJ part time for about a year, and it’s a great job for meeting women. Most of the time women come up to you and request songs and you can use this chance to neg/tease them. Plus you have the whole authority thing going…

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