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The Top 10 Pick Up Artists of 2008

TSB Magazine has been around now close to four years. Over the past couple years we have become extremely involved in the pick up and seduction community. We have had the opportunity to personally interview many of the top coaches and instructors. We have been invited to attend various boot camps and seminars. We have personally sarged with instructors, and have had behind the scenes conversations with many in the community. We have also had the opportunity to view hundreds of hours of infield video and audio from various pick up artists and instructors, as well as talk to many students who have attended various boot camps.

It is with all of this information that we have decided to honor The Top 10 Pick Up Artists of 2008.

How we have based our rankings:

The top 10 list will comprise of PUAs who have demonstrated tremendous ability both in the field, and teaching others the skills. The top PUA must be active within the community, and have testimonials from people outside his own organization.

We have chosen not to include Neil Strauss or Mystery in this list because we believe that the two of them have achieved a degree of celebrity status that makes it unfair to judge them against PUAs not known to the mainstream.

We have also chosen not to include guys like Richard La Ruina, David DeAngelo, and Nick Savoy. We consider each of these men foremost businessmen.

So without further waiting…

1. Brad P

If respect from your peers is a credential for being the best… then Brad P definitely takes top honors. Brad P is universally respected by everyone in the community for his insane ability to close quickly in field, and his increasingly large following of students who swear by his teachings.

Unlike many of the PUAs out there, Brad has a style uniquely his own. He is a tall, funny, charismatic guy who demands the attention of everyone in the room. We had the opportunity to spend time talking to Brad and listening to him speak at this year’s Super Conference in Los Angeles. The guy at the entire room in the palm of his hand every time he opened his mouth.

More importantly than gaining the respect of AFCs though, Brad is respected by just about everyone in the community. When it was Brad’s turn to speak at the convention he had some of the best PUAs in the world sitting in the front row taking notes.

If you’ve never heard of Brad P, just read Brad’s favorite opener… and you’ll get an idea of his style.

The only reason you haven’t heard more of Brad P is because he chooses not to disclose his identity on camera. If this guy released infield videos I am sure he would be a household name by now.

Brad’s definitive product is his Underground Dating Seminar.

2. Sinn

Sinn is a student of the game. I watched as Sinn took notes at the Super Conference from guys without half his level of skill. He is the master at taking elements of other people’s game and making it his own.

Sinn takes some heat for being moody, but I haven’t met anyone that will deny that his game is extraordinary. Although Sinn no longer works with Love Systems he was an attendee at their recent Super Conference. TSB Magazine had an opportunity to hang in field with Sinn for awhile. It was no surprise to hear the stories the next morning involving Sinn and 5.0 basically having an orgie with a couple girls they met out in Los Angeles that night. Infield, Sinn is the epitome of a PUA.

As I mentioned with Brad P, a big sign of someone’s talent is the respect they get from their peers. Sinn is respected by just about everyone in the industry. Various different companies bring him in as guest instructor, and no one ever denies his ability.

Sinn is also constantly giving back to the community. His blog has been popular for years and he recently released a 60 page ebook that he gave a way for free. I read the book and it is good as books I’ve seen other gurus charge good money for.

Sinns of Attraction

3. Cajun

4 words some up this guy’s legendary status: Keys to the VIP.

I’ve never seen an infield video get as universally praised as his performance on Keys to the VIP. But we would never nominate someone solely on the basis of a video. TSB Magazine had the opportunity to follow Cajun around during a boot camp. We not only got see him teach students, but more importantly we got to see his level of game in person. Cajun is just as cool, confident, and slick as he appears on video.

But what you don’t realize on video is that Cajun is like five feet tall. Unlike Brad P who benefits from a natural height advantage, Cajun has to overcome many women’s aversion to short guys.

Some people might argue that Cajun hasn’t contributed anything original as the basis of the game he teaches is MM (Mystery Method). I would argue that while Cajun teaches the MM, he blends various different elements into his own personal game. While guys like Mystery, Neil Strauss, and Mehow all use the MM to come in under the radar… Cajun’s game is much more direct. He has also perfected playing the role of the villain.

As a trained actor, Cajun uses non verbal communication as good as just about anybody I’ve seen in the field.

Cajun at Love Systems

4. AFC Adam

AFC Adam went from relative no name last year… to basically taking the world by storm in 2008. The only reason Adam Lyons doesn’t rank higher on this list is because his sarging has been limited since his girlfriend Amanda accompanies him on all of his boot camps.

TSB Magazine had an opportunity to attend an Adam Lyons boot camp last June and got to see glimpses of him in action. We will safely say that we have never met a more charming PUA. His “natural game” is unique from most everyone else on this list. The guy could charm the pants off just about any girl he comes in contact with.

We also talked to a couple students who have seen more of Adam than we had, and they were all floored by his ability. Adam Lyons is also giving back to the community by offering several free ebooks, countless media appearance, and fair priced boot camps.

We actually selected Adam Lyons as our recommended bootcamp for 2009.

5. Captain Jack

If you read Sinn’s blog you’ll realize that much of what he learns he’s learned from Captain Jack. And if you read the new lay report book, you’ll hear some good stories about this guy’s talent.

While Captain Jack isn’t a highly visible in the community, he commands the respect of his peers. Nearly everyone in the industry talks highly of his ability to score one night lays.

Captain Jack has only recently gone the guru route with his revolutionary e boot camp but is more known for his collection of field reports and free advice he offers on his blog.

6. Matador

Matador is known as Mystery’s cronie. As many people dislike the guy as like him. But there is no denying that he has established a big impact on the community in the last couple years.

The guy is the poster child for alpha male body language. And if you’ve seen him on video you know how well he can control a set.

What differentiates Matador from a lot of the guys not on this list.. is that Matador is out there living the lifestyle. There may be guys with better game, but they are sitting at home with their girlfriends and haven’t been in field in years.

7. Mehow

Mehow takes a lot of slack for copying a lot of Mystery’s game. But there is no denying that Mehow has brought more infield footage to the table than any other guru. It takes a lot of balls to perform on camera. Most gurus won’t go in front of the camera, or put out short one minute videos portraying only their best material. Mehow put out an entire 8 DVD set of himself in field.

If you watch Mehow work a set it is clear that he has a sharp understanding of how to guide an interaction along towards a kiss close. Although I’ve never been into the whole playing gay idea, it seems to work really well on the type of girls that Mehow goes for.

Mehow’s ranking in this top list has most to do with the fact that he has exposed himself to critism in a way that few PUAs have… and has for the most part walked away untouched.

8. Mr. M

Mr. M arrived on the scene with AFC Adam with their PUA.TV webisodes. They went their separate ways with AFC Adam working with PUA Training and Mr. M working with Love Systems. Mr. M is also the founder of the hugely talked about Project Rockstar, which trained a group of students in Europe, free of charge.

Mr. M, however, is making a name for himself as Love System’s top European instructor. At this year’s Super Conference Mr. M was highly praised by pretty much everybody one in attendance for both is infield game, and his ability to affectively teach the stuff.

I’ve had the chance to chat with Mr. M at this year’s Playboy Mansion party, and can say the guy is genuine and real. At only about 5’2 he also has had to overcome a huge height disadvantage, but has still managed to close Playboy Playmates.

9. Speer

Speer has been an instructor for Mystery, and has been hailed by Mystery has the “the best pickup artist he’s seen.” Speer has put out a ton of videos on You Tube and has collaborated with Love Systems, Mystery, AFC Adam, and others.

He is new to the lime light, but I trust that by the end of 2009 you will have head a lot more about Speer. His approach to game is similar to Mystery’s in giving off that rock star vibe, but he has made just enough adjustments and brings just enough originality to be considered legit.


10. Natural Tim

Natural Tim gets the 10th place word of mouth vote. I haven’t seen him in action, but there are enough people out there that put their name on the line for him that he has to be included. Sure he has put out some misstep videos… but my personal opinion was that those videos were merely meant to stir up controversy.

Tim get points for using a style of game that is a bit different from others on this list. RSD aren’t the most social of all companies… but they have a legion of fans who will fight to the grave for them. That has to stand for something.

Natural Tim at RSD

Who to look out for in 2009

Soul– This guy is a master at day game. You will surely be hearing his name again.

Tenmagnet – If I had the opportunity to see him in action this past October I’m sure he would have made the list. This is one cool guy who is more than willing to give back to the community.

Mike StouteMike Stoute is single and on a roll. He hooked up with a hired gun at the Playboy Mansion. If that doesn’t give you street credit.. nothing will. Look out for him in 2009!

Badboy – Personally I love reading his direct game newsletter. He was supposed to be at the Super Conference, but I don’t think he showed up so I didn’t get a chance to see him.

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  1. Hammer

    December 5, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Good list guys. Another two puas that you should be on the lookout for in ’09 are Entropy and Doc Holiday at Practical Pickup based in Boston. They should not be on this list right now, but they are major up and comers, and I think that in ’09 they will have a huge impact.

    Doc is especially good at Day game, and I don’t think that Soul can hold a candle to him in that area. Both of these guys have girlfriends, but they are open relationships so they still go out in field on a regular basis.

    • MikeStoute

      December 5, 2008 at 11:03 am

      We’ll def keep a look out. As for Doc Holiday and Soul, I’m not sure… Soul is one of the smoothest talkers I have ever met in or outside of this industry.

      He is currently one of the most in demand instructors for LS, and he’s still relatively new…

      • Hammer

        December 5, 2008 at 11:20 am

        Doc is a guy who’s still pretty new to the community as well. He trained under Sinn a couple of years ago I believe. His blog is incredibly entertaining as well. But he’s one of these guys with absolutely no physical advantages. He’s like 5’4ish and really skinny, but goes for the whole piercings/tattoos look and pulls it off. He also has a pierced cock routine which is probably the most effective sexual escalation technique ever being as within 2 minutes of meeting a chick he has her touching his schween (obviously that’s night game). His blog is here: and you can find a link to Entropy’s blog through his.

        • MikeStoute

          December 5, 2008 at 11:27 am

          Thanks, we’ll put them on the Radar!

        • sean messenger

          January 3, 2009 at 10:11 am

          Doc is a great kid. Met him in Boston a few years back (Boston, represent!) and he’s such a good guy.

          Didn’t know he went for the cock ring too. I should have never told him that secret of mine. 😉

          Nice to see so much love for Brad on here as well. Another truly great dude, and his skill with the ladies, AND passion and talent for teaching, is unmatched. He’s taken the concept of transformation farther than anyone in this industry (myself included), and I can say, without hesitation, if you want to learn how to get laid in bars, don’t even think of going to anyone else before you go to Brad.

          That might just hurt my business a little, but fuck it. It’s true. 🙂


  2. Brad

    December 5, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Yeah… I need to meet more of these guys in person…

    But, I’ll say this: Everyone I HAVE personally met have ridiculous game…

    Recent Words from Brad..Stacking The Cool

    • Brad

      December 5, 2008 at 11:31 am

      … has… (geez)

  3. James

    December 5, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I have either met, talked or had a bootcamp with a number of these guys on the list and I think you have it nailed down very accurately.

    Brad P is a total class act and I consider him my mentor. This guy helped me with my AA and identity more than any guru I have been in direct contact. His bootcamps are beyond any other I have attended and while yes he does have a height advantage, his personality and wit is unparalleled. He is a very credible teacher and his camps are priced below much of the competition.

    Honorable mention should go to Fader (from lovesystems – he is another short guy that maybe the best overall instructor with lovesystems), Dave M (his online work is rarely mentioned and it is brilliant – this has contributed to more than 50% of my dates) the afore mentioned Doc Holiday and El Topo. I have talked to Doc and for 21 year old man, he has more poise than many 45 year olds I know. El Topo’s red stack is a masterpiece – hall of fame material.

  4. Lance

    December 5, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Good list, my guess is Janka would make it in here somewhere, at least an honorable mention. From what I’ve read and seen on video, he’s developed a system that reels them in. Also, there’s a couple of guys in Orlando that I’ve heard of that have sick game, they just don’t publicize on the ‘net at all.

    Recent Words from Lance..In Sickness…

    • MikeStoute

      December 5, 2008 at 4:10 pm

      IDK Lance, my personal opinion is that this guy brings out all the negative in the industry. I don’t believe that he actually likes women (just likes manipulating them) and his pompous attitude and arrogant self worth rub me and others I have talked to in the industry the wrong way.

      My Prediction – Future Ross Jeffries living with cats…

  5. Damien

    December 5, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Good list… but explain again why Mystery and Neil Strauss aren’t on the list. I think everyone agrees that he is one of the best…

    • Bobby Rio

      December 5, 2008 at 4:17 pm

      Like Ace said below.. Mystery is a celebrity now. Sure he contributed a lot to the community in the past, but when you’re making appearances on Jimmy Kimmel, Conan, and have skits done about you on SNL.. you’ve graduated to B list celebrity.. The sad truth is that all B list celebrities can get laid easily. Should we put Flavor Flav on the list? Or Brett Michaels? Those guys have women fighting over them left and right.

      Agree or disagree, the fact is that I might go as far as to say that even if we did include Mystery and Strauss… Brad P would still beat both of them.

      • MikeStoute

        December 5, 2008 at 4:33 pm

        I second that…

  6. ace11

    December 5, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    I agree with not putting Mystery on the list… the guy is a celebrity now. Fuck even Mini Me gets ass a celebrity.

    What about Stephen Nash? I heard he’s good. Have you guys seen him in action? And I wish Brad P would put out some videos.

    Personally the only one I don’t agree with is Mehow. I don’t think his game is as good as the videos make it to be.

    • MikeStoute

      December 5, 2008 at 4:30 pm

      Yeah, Mehow’s stock is falling fast!

  7. Gars

    December 5, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    I think you forgot to mention one name to remember for 2009 but that’s probably because he hasn’t operated in the states yet. His name is Jeremy Cimber (you can check him out on facebook). The guy is an approach coach for mystery and he just rocks! I’ve seen him in action and I can assure you he’s certainly as strong as Mystery himself!

  8. gars

    December 5, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    By the way his nickname is Moonlight.

  9. Rham

    December 5, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    I agree with Stephen Nash and to add one more, Cameron Teone. Cameron has put out a great new audio product that features conversational pieces dealing with shit tests, frames,ect. This is territory that rarely covered. It shifts the focus off of a guy worrying about attraction to methods that will naturally create attraction such a storytelling, understanding womens body language and calibration. I bought his product and boy it is powerful stuff. Rating A

    Stephen Nash is a class act as well. His How-to-get-a-girl-friend product is deals with developing a rich (meaning full) lifestyle that will naturally make a man that much more attractive to women. Rating A-

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  11. Tenmagnet

    December 7, 2008 at 4:01 pm


    Too bad we couldn’t go out when we met in LA, but thanks a lot for the honorable mention. We should definitely meet up and head out sometime so I can get my name a bit further up the list. 🙂 Love your site!


    Recent Words from Tenmagnet..Cajun and I do a Pickup Video Podcast

    • MikeStoute

      December 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm


      I was great meeting you and chilling out by the pool. btw, those video interviews are coming soon, so sorry for the delay 😉 I’ll send you a message on FB when they are done.

      Let’s keep in touch and try to hook up sometime in the near future!

  12. Ryan

    December 8, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    I’m sorry but this list is not very accurate. I would put Matador at #2 and Sinn at #3 or lower. Cajun didn’t prove himself so much but at one show with 3 sets.

    This list is definitely not biased.

    You better way up SKILL by looking heavily into infield footage and contributions to the game.
    For instance, there isn’t one guy up in that list that can BJ close, kiss close or f – close faster than matador. His new matador mayhem technique is taking things to a whole new level. just go out and read in field reports and bootcamp feedback about what is happening when people join that guy for a night out.

  13. Jo

    December 9, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    LOL at people actually reading this and arguing over it. I’ve seen some of these guys in-field and I’m the least bit impressed. There are millions better. Get out of the house and stop idol worshipping these guys.

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  15. Soul

    December 10, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Thanks for the props and honourable mention guys! Recently had dinner with Brad and have to say that guy is a legend.

    Is it just coincidence that Mr M made it to No. 8 since he started living with me?? He is the Game Absorber. Like Sylar from Heroes.

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    • Daniel Lujan

      June 18, 2011 at 9:11 pm

      No, I do not want to buy any material, join any inner ciricles, etc. To get a girl to notice you, you need a gimmick. Without this gimmick girls don’t even know I am there. Even when I am at sports bars, clubs, restaurants, etc. sometimes they forget I even ordered. The gimmick is money. Once I use this gimmick, it is all over but the crying. The only person(s) I have to fear is the manager(s). With my method, it is the females who have to initiate the contact. It is the females who have to fear rejection. If I don’t have my arms around them in less than one minute, something is wrong. I know in less than one minute what waitresses are married or have a boyfriend. I have seen a few men who have probably seen me work my method and tried it out. I considered myself the grand master in meeting women. I have seen countless pickup artists on the internet and I say to myself, “What!!” I can almost say without contradiction that my method is the best, fastest, easiest method anywhere. In fact, in less than 5 seconds, hundreds of females have told me, “Yes, I’ll marry you!! It is the first thing that comes into their minds. I know many are married or have boy friends. It is the ones who are single I have to worry about. Oh yes, if you saw my picture, you would probably say, “Yeah, right.” If you met me in person, you would probably say, “Is somebody putting me on??”
      hundreds of females have

  18. johnnyboy

    December 11, 2008 at 6:30 am

    why is only Tim from RSD amongst top PUA? what’s about tyler or jeffy?

    • Bobby Rio

      December 11, 2008 at 10:35 pm

      Tyler has been MIA from much of the community. And while I love Tyler’s posts, and find his speaking motivating… I couldn’t find enough people who talked highly of his infield game to include him…

      Jeffy I haven’t heard much about eihter.

      While it would be impossible to list everyone that belongs on here on here… we tried to include guys that we’ve personally seen in action… or had enough students and other PUAs speak highly of.

      Tim’s name happened to come up more than Jeffy or Tylers this year.

  19. ChuckBass

    December 11, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Sweet entry guys… Hmmm Tim put out a misstep video? That might have been Alexander no? Either way Tim’s game is pretty sickening..Ran into him at the Saddle Ranch in L.A….

    • Bobby Rio

      December 11, 2008 at 10:36 pm


      Thanks… I think you are right about the Alex putting out that video.. my bad.

  20. billy

    December 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    i copied it and pasted it here.

    Hi Guys,

    I’ve been on a couple of MM/LS bootcamps, so I thought that I was pretty solid with most of the material out there… this bootcamp/workshop totally changed my perspective on game and introduced me to a whole new world and style of game (seeing a 1 min. f-close right before your eyes will do that).

    Highlights: Included (1) seeing and hearing Brad P. do a 1-minute toilet F*** close, whilst I winged the friend [see HIGHLIGHT F-CLOSE below] and (2) doing a take-away with a cute blonde club floater (who left me her wallet, Driver’s ID, health care card and cash for safe keeping) (3) doing first Day Game session as part of workshop (4) Doing a thorough in-depth inner game and values analysis (Brad is a qualified Psychologist and Counsellor).

    Structure: Brad P.’s workshop is 3/4 in-field training and 1/4 theory, which was beneficial to me as I have gone on other bootcamps before, and just needed training honing my in-field skills.

    Brad P. has a totally different style of opener (“The Shocker”) which I have found 100% more interesting and fun than the opinion openers I’ve been using. The sets just totally blow open with hilarity and energy at the end of my openers now. Imagine a DHV, funny neg, cocky funny and attraction opener in one hit.

    He also has a very cool cocky funny method of dealing with s*** tests. I actually look forward to getting shit tests now… and it works great with those tough witty and sarcastic girls (who are fabulous in the sack). I use it all the time now, and never ever fail to get a great laugh and kino when I execute it. I’ve gamed a lesbian couple in Singapore using this, and had the “bride” kinoing me when her partner was gone because of this (and got invited to her lesbian wedding next month! haha).

    HIGHLIGHT F-CLOSE: If you just want to read how a 1 min F-Close is accomplished, just read this section!!!

    On first night, second set into the evening, Brad and I go to the bar to get a drink. A hot hot 6’3″ bubbly brunette, with awesome rack, grabs a glass and says “you guys better not be f***ing pushing in… we’ve been waiting ages so get in line!!!” She was seriously very pissed off. I see Brad pause for a moment… and then *click* game on!

    Brad and I swap position, so I am next to the brunette’s (lets call her Big’uns) shorter and somewhat less sexier friend. The short friend is between Brad and me and Biguns.

    Brad goes “You wouldn’t dare… or I’d have to spank your ass… HARD!”. Big’uns holds onto her frame and actually grabs the glass and points it at Brad. I busy myself talking with the short friend, while trying to think of the emergency ambulance number, and how to avoid being glassed (sorry Brad).

    I watch Brad move closer to Big’uns, but still standing tall (he is as tall as her… like 6’5″!) stare at her… and in between my conversion with short friend I hear him say “You’re a feisty tiger!” or something like that.

    Next thing I know, Big’uns has jumped – really, literally! in Australia we call it a Specky, where a guy jumps over another guy, and puts their knee into the guys back as they do it, during football games – on top of her friend, and lunges at Brad planting a kiss on him (she’s like sucking out his mouth). I’m talking to the friend about the weather, and she’s talking to me about the weather, but we’re both thinking WHAT THE F***!!! hahaha

    Brad goes to me “I just gotta go to the bathroom, be back in 2 mins”. Short girl and I go okay, and I practice kino’ing short girl her while talking about horticulture. 15 mins later Brad is back, looking happy. I refuse to Hi-5 him.

    Brad then goes to me “lets go outside and de-brief what happened, and what I did, because that was a textbook bathroom close”. We then go outside and “analyse” step by step what Brad said and did that got the 1 min F-Close. Wow.

    Day 1/Night 1 in field – Okay, for you guys still reading, here is what happened the rest of the time! hahaha We spent only several hours learning “Shocker” style openers, mid-game attraction routines, attractive qualities etc. before heading in-field.

    I have to add here that Brad concentrates heavily on in-field practice, so you may want to read up in the Magic Bullets or whatever manual before you start (actually, Brad sends you a recording of his full 6 day seminar and eBook which also covers the necessary theory).

    The first night was more an “evaluation” night, where Brad checked our game, demonstrated sets for us (we were like listening in and looking from 50cm away!), and give us quick pointers in-set. Day 2 was where we REALLY worked.

    Day 2/Day Game/Night 2 – This was a long long day… 16 hours seminar, day game and then night game.

    We spent the first part of the day analysing the previous night, what we did right, what our sticking points were, and how to fix them and where to develop our game.

    Then we went through mid-game attraction routines for sexual escalation, (this section got me a cute blonde takeaway that night!) and where and what resources we had to develop our game.

    Then after only several hours, we went in-field during the day, doing day sets at the waterfront. Firstly, Brad gave us a series of exercises to get over our social phobias, then got us opening sets, with him analysing and giving advice after each set. We spent several hours in day game, before if got dark, and we all went for dinner and then the night portion.

    We went to the same huge club that night, and again started opening sets, with Brad analysing us during and after each set, telling us what we were doing right, how to improve, and then open more sets. We had several de-briefing meetings that night!.

    I ended up leaving the bar with a cute blonde girl during the later part of the night, so left the guys to meet them the next day. Basically, I spotted a cute blonde dental nurse sitting by herself, opened her with Brad’s “Shocker”, then escalated with Brad’s “Cat Routine” then kino’d her with Brad’s “Let’s play the blender game”…. and took her back to my apartment… Thanks Brad!

    Day 3 – WOW!!! This is were Brad really differentiates from the other coaches. On the third day, we did a debrief on the previous night, But then Brad started asking questions and got us questioning our “values”.

    Basically, he did a thorough “counselling” session, where he analysed our values, what were the motivators that made us happy, how to use these motivators to develop higher value as men, and how to apply this not only to game but to our lives.

    We then went through and analysed how these “values” had affected our interactions with women and relationships, for better or worse, and what we could do about it to develop better game (ie. develop nturally and subconsciously higher value attitudes, beliefs and actions). I’m a non-natural gamer, so this has been essential for helping get rid of my remaining AFC vibe (there’s a limit to fake-it-to-you-make-it). Its also totally changed the way I approach life and my work in general… thanks.

    In the end, I think that my previous bootcamps gave me a solid technique, but I feel that before I was a bit robotic (running opinion openers, escalating, comfort in 7 hours)… Brad P.’s workshop puts “flesh” onto your technique. A feel significantly more natural now when I’m running game and routines. Importantly, I’m having alot more fun now when doing game (because of Brad’s “natural” cocky funny, naturally high value style of game) and have lost my previous wing dependancy. Thanks Brad.

  21. justin

    December 14, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    This was mehows list for top 8 puas only guys proven with video

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  23. Sephora

    December 21, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Great list guys. I think everyone on it deserved the spot they got!

  24. i like pickle juice

    December 22, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    someone can make a resumeof Mr M fr sarging the “playboy girl”?
    cauze i’ve tried to read it but all i get was:”and while i was standing in a chair just like in our product “how to look cool standing in a chair” and talking with my wing-for this buy our product “how to talk with your wing” i saw a girl-check fader interview about “how to stare/look at a girls”…..and i’ve stopped here.


  25. Al

    December 25, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Hey guys, I loved the list! I think you guys Forgot one big name. Have you guys ever seen Made on MTV. They had this kid on there named Brian who wanted to be a ladies man. They had this dating coach name Tariq “king-Flex”Nasheed. This guy is the truth for real. Guys pick up his book, its really good. Its different cause it focuses on natural game instead of contrived routines. He’s got two books “the art of mackin'” and “the mack within” for men. The he got some stuff for girls. And Cajun is the truth. I spoke to him on the phone, and let me tell you, that guy has some serious stuff. I also spoke with king=flex and he is a great coach, both helped me a lot.

  26. Duke

    December 31, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    I have to disagree with this list
    there is no way half these guys are top 10
    this should be called The 2008 Trendy Celebrity Pick up Bull list
    my respects go out to
    Badboy &
    the RSD Guys

    • Sean Messenger

      January 2, 2009 at 4:11 pm

      and THAT’s not a list of “celebrities?”

      this list is a serious improvement over the usual shite cos it’s full of guys who are working hard at innovating and teaching, as well as proving their skills, rather than coasting on rep.

  27. Sean Messenger

    January 2, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    I like that your list, unlike so many others, looks for real evidence and verification of the skills you need to be a great seducer and teacher. It’s not tough to write up field reports to brag on your skill, and it’s not that tough to create a website and some clever info-marketing to get customers, but it’s hard as hell to prove your skills in-field with credible witnesses and/or video, AND be able to produce students who have truly transformed and become better, sexier men as a result of your teaching.

    I can personally vouch for the coolness and pickup skills of almost everyone on the list, and I feel they represent a great development in the community from a secret sect to a true men’s movement, where we can make great change, for men and women.

    and since i never call myself a PUA, i’m not even that hurt that I’m not on the list. 😀


    Sean Messenger from LVo3

  28. justin

    January 7, 2009 at 12:32 am

    Hypnotica not in top 10???????? or even mentioned? Bad.

  29. Drake

    January 11, 2009 at 2:46 am

    I live in Toronto and have seen many of these guys in field. . .for the record I have seen Cajun and Mehow. . .I cannot understand the hype. .

    Im not a hater. . just saying Brad P or Sinns shoes could wheel more girls


  30. Showtime

    February 21, 2009 at 2:41 am

    What about APB? He should at least get some honorable mention for having to train the hardest students imo :P.

  31. ItalianJob

    March 8, 2009 at 5:47 am

    Is the PUA thing only based on hype and a certain underground code of praise? If Brad P. (for instance) never releases his footage like you guys say, I feel nobody can judge him. How could you rank the guy #1 and tell us to “read his book about his exploits” written by him, if we want proof?

    I really don’t mean to be a party pooper, but that’s strange to me. Don’t get me wrong, I have Brad P.’s book, and so far, his “Perfect date” material is very ingenious, and I could see how it is helping my thought process, but I would not rank him yet. For instance, Neil Strauss swore by that NLP guru in The Game (I believe Ross Jeffries), but Sinn later stated in his own book that he never met a single guy who used NLP succesfully. So who is being real here fellas?

    I think we should all set a higher bar in this PUA world and not get impressed easily by narrated stories, otherwise everybody with 10 friends can claim knowledge, and turn this into a money-making scheme. Why not release some infield videos, or keep the label “not tested for sure”. To that end, the only persons I really respect would be Mehow and Cajun, who I have seen videos about. Get out there on video, make it happen, and I will be a follower. Too easy to give self-confirmed stories. Again, they might be the best out there, but come on, let’s step out and be more demanding of those we call leaders.

    • Bobby Rio

      March 8, 2009 at 7:15 pm

      We based ours by infield experience… we’ve had the chance to meet many of the gurus at their bootcamps and see them in action.

      Brad p, at the superconference had a many many people their who had also taken bootcamps with him and seen him in action.

      In fact i put much more weight on their success in the field over videos.. because videos can be manipulated…

  32. heartbreaker

    April 7, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Hey Guys,

    I am heartbreaker and I work for Speermethod. I want to make a correction about what we teach. We do not teach mystery method, but we teach L.E.I. Please visit our site for more information about us and our system.

  33. jet

    October 25, 2009 at 3:43 am

    great list? you people must be retarded? how is brad pitt a pick up artist? he is just famous that`s why he gets women not because he has pua skills

  34. Anonymous

    December 1, 2009 at 9:17 am

    Wtf when did Brad Pit become a PUA i thought he was with Angelina??

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